
Facing the worst financial crisis in 70 years, the Federal Reserve cut its key benchmark interest rate a half-percentage point Wednesday.
::sigh:: What a dismal fall this is.
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Did Bernanke learn anything from what happened to Japan in the 90s when they cut interest rate to 0%?
The best thing Bernanke and Paulson could do for the American economy is abolish the Fed and outlaw fractional reserve banking.
Bernanke and Paulson appear to be really lost.
They can't, Semper-Fi.
Who cares! Too little too late, and zero percent interest would not fix this mess. The Fed is a joke.
Semper-Fi
It's not the fact that congress accomplished the bailout, it's the fact that congress has no authority over the Fed.
Please don't feel insulted. Apparently you didn't know.
Thank you, JEHumphreys.
Semper Fi, this seed is not about lending money. This seed is about adjusting a rate.
Congress has no power or authority to tell the Fed what to do about adjusting rates.
The talking heads on CNBC just had a little discussion (about 5:45pm CA). They had several increduous speakers who want everyone to know that NO ONE IS OVERSEEING the money sent to the banks for a bailout. This came up because bonuses are to be paid. This "public bailout of the Financial Sector" has those managers during this fiasco's creation NOT being penalized - and not being watched as the money comes in.
Can someone please call Shrub and tell him to step up? $125 Billion has been divvied up to 9 banks/financials. Another $125 Billion is going to be sent to Regional Banks. How can the Republican party stop this bleeding? How can anyone? No more of the McSame, that is for certain. America is so broke, it's just inconceivable.
When the dust settles on the election, and it comes out how badly the taxpayer has been done, maybe then citizens will see how pressure needs to be applied to demand term limits for congress. That seems to be the most immediate fix.
Congress does control the Fed. As Ron Paul likes to point out, Congress doesn't have total control over the Fed, but they do have control. Private banks are a part of the Fed, but not the only part. The system was intentionally set up so no one group controls the money supply (and that is a good thing!). You can check the Fed's homepage for exactly how they are set up. Spreading rumors at this point won't help anyone.
Robert-
Please point out to all of us the last time congress controlled a rate change.
Also, here is a fairly detailed history of the Fed. Better than what's on the Fed site.
Congress created it and basically has set it loose.
The fed really isn't "controlled" by anyone. It is a branch of monetary policy, its actions are delegated by a seperate entity than the US government that is headed by a chairman appointed by the government. So...I guess in a way the government will appoint someone they believe they can control or will atleast decide in their favor, but that doesn't say that the federal open market committee will do whatever congress tells them to do.
The government handles financial issues through fiscal policies - government spending, taxing, investments in infrastructure, etc.
The federal reserve handles financial issues through monetary policy - money flow, fed. funds rate, lending money to banks, etc.
If the banks do not pass it along is done nothing to help.
That's just it the people will never realize or enjoy the lower interest rates. It's all a scam.
I agree, in fact, it will probably drive mortgages rates up!! Credit cards are still running around 10% if you have good credit and much higher if you don't. So who do they think this rate cut is going to help?
I think the Fed's have completely lost control of the economy and this just helps to prove it!!.
Trickle-down economy = pi$$ed on populace!!
Show me anywhere in the US that you can get a 1% interest rate on anything...
Just more of the same old irrelevant mumbo-jumbo...Two more of my favorite definitions are:
Economics = steal the money
accounting = hide the theft!!
The downside of monetary policy is that it takes time for the acts to take effect. Which is sort of backwards since typically we dont know we're in a recession until we're already half way through it so there's a lag effect with monetary policy. So once the acts of the fed take place, its possible they will have an adverse effect as they did in the late 90s and early 00s when the economy was doing fine and credit was easy to get. Thats what got us where we are now, and thats what bernanke is worried will happen again and will most likely work to avoid - over stimulus
END THE FED
Before it ends the U.S.A.
We must take back the house and Pass HR2755
The Federal Reserve System is no more “Federal” than Federal Express®!!
The FED was created in 1913 by an abominable act of Congress. With a swift stroke of the pen, President Woodrow Wilson doomed the fate of generations. And enslaved the American citizens to a life of servitude, to an elite group of international bankers.
The FED is in fact a private banking cartel, was created by some of the most prominent bankers of the day. Including J.P. Morgan, Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin, Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris, Israel Moses Sieff Banks of Italy, Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Germany and Amsterdam, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Lehman Brothers Bank of New York, Goldman Sachs Bank of New York,Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Controlled By the Rockefellers).
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men."
- Woodrow Wilson, reflecting on passage of the Federal Reserve Act
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks...will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
President, Thomas Jefferson
In 1921 the same cast of CRIMINALS gave us another non-governmental organization, The Council on Foreign Relations, also known as the CFR. The CFR has run our federal government since its inception. Its aims are clear, and with an ever accelerating
rate of success they are only a few months or few years from achieving their goal… Maybe they already have?
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government."
- Admiral Chester
Ward - Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
we need more Americans to understand that central banks are ruining this country. 99% of the people I have discussions with have no idea the Fed is a private entity. Nobody does any research. Turn off the damn idiot box, stop listen to the Corporate Party's lies and wake the f up.
So if the FED keeps cutting key interest rates (it's now only ONLY ONE PERCENT) then why are mortgages still at 6%?????
Different rate. This is the overnight rate, mortgages are usually tied to Prime. Prime will fall, too, but home loan rate changes aren't immediate. It should go down a bit soon.
Don't hold your breath!
Mystic, Dream on.
Arthur,
Mortgage rates aren't going to plummet but they should go down.
You had no reason to respond to me the way you did. Please be more respectful.
Hahaha.... Arthur you are wise beyond your years.
Mystics right, its not like mortgage rates are going to drop 3 seconds after the fed announces its plan to cut rates
Because banking is hoarding money!
I posted this tidbit on a related topic.
People go to college to figure this out?
As long as banks hoard the interest rates from consumers what the hell do you expect? A recession of the recession?
Here is what will come forward possibly in the next 2-10 years.
1. Banks and mortgage companies who posted extreme losses will be found to have cooked the books.
2. The 700 billion dollar bailout of 2008 will be found to have been raided by the same business's that put us here in the first place and the money will never make it to the consumer.
3. CEO/CFO etc bonus's will continue to be payed at astronomical (or is that camical) rates!
4. Colan exams among consumers will increase 10,000% as we try to figure out just what did they stick up our asses!
CNBC was talking about your points tonight, BigRick, except not #4, lol.
Oh good now "we" can borrow more money and spend it and be deeper in debt than before!!! Who will be the next "bail out"???? What are these people smoking?
This in turn should allow banks to lower their rates they charge us. Particularly since the prime lending rate also falls to just 4% with this rate cut.Will thebanks folow suit and allow more homeowners to keep their houses?, will they promote small business loans to employ more people?, will they ease the burden of this credit crunch? chuckles a little, I am thinking that would mean a cut in the executive salary, so probably not.
Like this is going to help the American people. The bank CEO's are too busy padding their pockets on the way out. The Fed's could go to 0% and the American people are still going to pay top dollar interest in all factions of the banking industry.
I just saw a commercial run by Diteck lending institution. A few days ago the interest rate was 5 7/8% today it's 6 1/8%. Yeap sure has helped out here.
By all rights the interest rates from credit cards to houses should be drastically reduced in comparison to the rates the banks are getting. All the people see is the Feds keep giving to the irresponsible big guys and the people get to scratch @!$%# with the chickens!
The only way to help is to get Bush and the Republicans out of any office. His incompetence and stupidity is to blame. If he were any kind of a leader he would have surrounded himself with intelligent people to cover up his ineptitude. I am by no means an economist but I saw it coming 3 years ago. I got out of "the market", sold everythging in the US, relocated to another country, bought a home (paid it off) and live a good life. I am so sorry for most Americans that have fallen for the BS and have become victims of the stupidity, incompetence and greed. TIME FOR A CHANGE FOLKS!
Let's be fair here. It's not all the Republicans fault. The Democrats are the ones that are notorious for raising taxes and implementing socialistic handout programs. I think that there is enough blame to go around for everyone.
Bottom line is we need to forget this one world economy crap. Here are 5 basic steps to put America back on solid ground:
1) Buy American made products which will put Americans back to work.
2) Tax imports which will lower or reverse the trade deficit.
3) Limit or eliminate socialistic welfare programs.
4) Reduce the size of the Federal and State governments, thereby reducing the need for higher taxes.
5) Get out of NATO or at least make the countries that require our military help responsible for paying for it.
USA- that sounds good in theory, but where are you going to find usa made products?
Seriously I'm looking-it's very rare. I'm even considering buying a toyota because it's made in america.
KLO, I agree with you, that it is very hard to find a product made in America. When my wife or I go shopping, we always look, but rarely find things. Given the opportunity though, I will pay twice as much for an item made in the USA, than for one made overseas.
Like you said, at least some Toyota's are being produced here now. Just check the model and the dealers tag. Honda is another good one. If Honda, Toyota, or any other foreign owned company for that matter, is willing to put Americans to work, than I will gladly buy their product before I spend a dime to buy a product from an American company that is putting foreigners to work. But this is getting off the topic a bit...
I look for "made in the USA" also, it is hard to find goods. Maybe someone should start a website to clue people in, I'd use it. (Too tech lame to do it myself.)
DD50:
Were you sending a link? I think it disappears if you don't fool the edit machine with a "dot" for a "." or something like that.
If everybody is @!$%#in about change, then why would you vote for one of the two puppets the Corporate Party is anointing. Could it really get any worse by voting for Chuck Baldwin and other party candidates running for congress.
Oops, thought that was a heading, looking for the wrong thing -- found it, thank you! :)
The Feds / Republicans continue to support Wallstreet. Rate cut to the Fed Rate is just another example. Why not cut Prime. A rate that many mainstreet home mortgages is based on.
wallstreet gets bailed out and incented, but not mainstreet.
wake up feds and Republicans
i,m going to show my ignorance here but i want to know: why do the interest rates for mortgages stay at 5.75 to6.25% if the banks are borrowing money at 1% ? i mean, if that,s true then the banks are making between 500 and 600% mark-up and i,m suppossed to feel sorry for them?
bob layte
The 1% is the rate banks charge each other for short term loans (overnight type loans). When this rate drops, it will sometimes push mortgage rates up a bit. In my opinion, this is not helping the typical consumer at all.
My wife and I took all our money out of the stock market last summer, before the big crash. It's just sitting in the bank right now waiting, earning a meazly 0.09% interest rate. We both have credit scores over 800, yet our credit cards continue to charge around 8.99% interest if we run a balance. If we don't run a balance, they try to up the interest rate to around 20% . We tried to refinance our home and our 4 income properties, but to get the same 6.5% interest rate that we already have, the banks want nearly $25,000 in refinance charges. This is absurd!!! How does this help the economy grow?!!
They did not do this to help the consumer they did it to help the market!
Banks are also borrowing money at rates that fall between 2.5% to 4.5% if you check what they are offering to pay on Certificates of Deposits---------and due to all the credit card failures that are climbing every day, the banking business isn't so hot these days-------I was thinking of buying bank preferred shares like Uncle Sam, but I'm having second thoughts.
So the banks can borrow at 1% interest. But the bank credit cards (VISA, MastrerCard, Discover, etc.) are still charging 20-24%. Where's the outrage!!
If the lamebrain in the White House and his stupid financial people had any sense that average people cannot afford loans at 24%, they'd fix that problem right away.
I heard recently that the government is unwilling to change contractual agreements, so that's why the average American will continue paying usury rates on credit card debt. But the government was quick to change contractual agreements signed by AIG, etc., so it must be that the big money people will -- always and forever -- come up on top.
Here's a little story for ya, just to show how the banks could care less about the consumer and why the fed rate cut just won't do any good:
My wife and I each have credit scores over 800. Recently I was trying to start up my own business. I received a pre-approved credit card offer from Advanta, for my business. This offer had 0.0% on balance transfers for 15 months and a 'fixed rate' of 6.99% for all purchases. I opened the account, even though they only gave me a $12,500 initial credit line. I immediately transferred $12,250 in business start-up fees that I had accumulated. I began paying on the card, about 3-4 times the minimum monthly payment, but did not use it for any purchases. After about 9 months, I received a notice from Advanta, that they were raising my credit limit to $17,500. I had some business purchases planned and was going to use this new increase. On the very next bill, I found that not only did they increase my credit limit, but they also increased my '6.99% fixed rate' for new purchases, to 23.99%!! I immediately called the card company, thinking this was a typo or something. They told me that the 23.99% was in fact correct. They informed me that my credit score was still outstanding, but that I was being penalized for not using the card, even though I still had the remaining transferred balance of about $9000!! I immediately took money out of the bank and paid off my balance and cancelled the card, even though this has now prevented me from continuing with the start-up of my business.
All this while the feds were continuing to lower interest rates. Be very careful and always read the fine print. These banking bastards will rob you blind if you let them!!
That's because it's all about them~the banking business. The Fed's interest cut isn't to help the consumer it's about the banks making bigger bucks.
It's an all time scam if there ever was one.
COMPOUND INTEREST nobody gets it the banks will get richer off of us- lower our rates- doubrful. They borrow at this low interest and charge us 6-30 percent and we put up with it. When they make mistakes they get bailed out while the rest of us keep paying off our notes at usery rates. And we are helping them pay off the bailout as taxpayers also. Lucky us - may I have another Sir......
So what if they cut rates? I thought the 700 billion + Lehman bros and Bear Stearns etc were supposed to ease credit. The banks are not going to loan money to anyone they do not want to and right now they do not want to lend to anyone. The banks, that are still in business, are licking their wounds and worrying about bonuses. The administration can "jawbone" all that it wants to ,the banks have dodged a big bullet and they are waiting for the next big bailout. The banks will not lower interest rates the fed rate could go to -100 points and they will still not lower interest rates on credit cards.
The Republicans are responsible for this miss. They were in power for too long and they and the financial sector became arrogant and now we are supposed to rejoice because the fed dropped the rate. What does this mean to the people on the street? Nothing!
Miss one credit card payment and see what the bank will do for you to help you bailout.
I think that everyone who owns a home should allow it to be foreclosed then the banks will have to negotiate a new mortgage rate with you, they are not going to negotiate as long as you are making payments. They cannot afford to negotiate the loans. The banks are not going to lend They are licking their wounds and paying big bonuses while they count the bailout money. The administration can jawbone the banks forever and they will not pay any attention!
I think that everyone who owns a home should allow it to be foreclosed then the banks will have to negotiate a new mortgage rate with you, they are not going to negotiate as long as you are making payments.
Bill 467634, if I honestly thought it would do any good, I'd try your suggestion. I've tried everything else I can think of to get through to these idiots (Homecomings Financial - yes, I'll name them explicitly!) They can't even post a payment correctly; I sure as hell don't want to confuse them any more than I have to!
check it out. they cut the rate half a % "hoping" to stimulate the economy but at the same time (news of 0%!) so what do the people think? well I think I'll just wait to refiance thinking the rates are going to go lower .when all this time some bank is making interest on borrowed money ... THE POWER OF SPEECH Hey I changed my name.never was a plummer ,but it's got to help.
We are all slaves to corporate america, we will never pay our way out, you can't buy your way out, you will continue to be a slave until we can all figure out ways to own our homes, get off the grid, power our own homes, grow our own food, and become self-sufficient. I hope that they finally are serious about passing laws so that we as citizens can get off the grid, store our own power supply, be allowed to grow our own food in our own yards, and screw the banks with their high interest rates; then we can figure out how to survive health care, home owners' insurance, car insurance, and so on and so on. Oh, hell, we're just screwed.
this article sounds like the media is already trying to make excuses for Barracks lack of success as a president. C'mmon. if he fails he will get the blame, just like Bush has. He cant escape it. I cant wait for the shoe to be on the other foot.
he's not even in office & your blaming already? Get real. Whoever wins- has one steep hill to climb & if you believe that the next president is going to/can fix this overnight your delusional. It's going to take a long time to fix this mess. starting from the consumers all the way up
But i thought Obama was supposed to bring change??? i dont get it. Isnt he "the Messiah" you've got to be kidding me, i thought he was sent down from the God's to fix all our problems???
Obama may make a difference, or he may be just another Jimmy Carter - nice guy, intelligent - but in for only 4 years due to economic pain. Remember the 16% interest rate to buy a house? Not a lot of buying going on. I personally would not elect a Republican as a dog catcher this year, and I've been a registered Republican since age 17 - did not vote for Shrub the second time, however.
In 2012, we'll see what the Republicans can offer - if it is Romney the Mormon - forget it. Palin, never. They better find a new "saviour", willing to also step into a train wreck.
The Feds seems to be playing with and attempting to manipulate the markets with their rate cuts which will not do much if anything at all to help the public directly.
The banks certainly will make sure that they benefit from the rate cut more than anyone else., The $125 billion they got from the stock buying plan can be leveraged 9 times its value for various loans.
The Dow did increase but not for long as there are too many dominos beginning to fall causing more problems. The big 3 car makers, insurance companies and the credit card bubble could welll bring more instability to the market and the economy.
Wonder just how many institutions can we bail out before the national debt and budget deficit bankrupts us with higher taxes and even more inflation? Looks like we're in for some even more tough times ahead.
I might not be a financial expert, but common sense tells me that if you want to boost the economy, lower the interest that the normal public has to pay, so that it will lower payments, which frees up cash to be spent elsewhere, therefore boosting the economy. The general public has NOT received any assistance, leaving us with still no extra cash to be spent. If the government had given the 700 Billion dollars to the population to pay off their mortgages, the money would have still gone to the banks (Freddie & Fannie), but also eliviated the burden on the American citizens, so that we could continue to make purchases enabling the economy to keep on rolling.
seriously folks, why do we put up with this chit......there must be something quick and that will work besides "voting these aspholes out"........I'm game!
Banks are going to try to preserve their liquidity, and consumers are going to try to limit their exposure. Cutting rates is not going to be effective. And, oh, yes! The Federal Reserve Bank is a privately owned entity; it belongs to its member banks. Do Bernanke, Paulsen, et al., have the vaguest idea what they are doing>?
I'm sorry I can't help but wonder what would happen IF the government would do if they were really out to help the people? How are all these bailouts suppose to help YOU and ME? Doesn't it make more sense for the government to give bailouts to the people? We all need things in life and some don't have it. Give the hard working people, (and people that lost their jobs recently) the money and where will it go? RIGHT BACK INTO THE ECONOMY. WHY? People need to keep their houses, people need to feed their families, people need gas to get to and from work, or pay for transportation, People don't want to lose what they already have. To me that just makes more sense. Now the big companies are getting the money and where is it going? IF YOU GIVE THE MONEY OUT TO THE PEOPLE, THEY WILL START TO SPEND AGAIN AND MONEY WILL BE GOING BACK OUT INTO THE ECONOMY......
jwilbourne,
You gotta be kidding me, right? You arrogant, pompous, A$$esĀ are the ones who got us into this mess and now you want to slay Obama before he even gets into office. Clinton left us with a balanced budget and jobs for everyone who wanted to work for a decent wage. You Republican dipsh$$s come in with your huge corporate taxbreaks for the rich and " trickle down economics " That is so much BS. Median wages for middle class workers has dropped 25% in the last 8 years, who was in office for most of them, REPUBLICANS. Take your elitest attitude and shove it.
Bob Layte
Bob-
You need to be more respectful of other posters.
wow... all I can do is laugh. This is great. Dont get too excited now rBob. and by the way i'm sure i'm way more poor than you are. You just arent getting it. Your involved in a made up class war. I'm just not one to think the rich are evil. I know who gives me my pay check. It sure aint the democrats. it's the rich. they are the only one's who hire me. When's the last time you got a pay check from a poor person? dont you think punishing the rich might be slightly a bad idea. I know some where in there you have common sense. I just know it.
Bob is right on the money. Its these greedy SOBs who have raped and pillaged the average american worker for 20 years. Productivity is up, corporate profits have been through the roof. Average workers wage, absolutely flat for 20 years, despite double digit inflation on everything from food to school to housing. What did they expect? These 'rich' gave you a job for sure... at half what it should pay, meanwhile padding their own pockets and laughing at you.
Lets give more low cost easy money to the fools that don’t know how to control their spending and stay within their means. That way, the ones who know how to manage money can bail them out again through higher taxes and less services.
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